Deep Places

I can’t keep track of how many times the talented Elizabeth Wickham has pointed me to a terrific writing resource. She did so recently when she mentioned, “Writing Down the Bones” by Natalie Goldberg, first published in 1986.

I dunno why, but it sat around, unread. I can be pretty shallow when it comes to titles (isn’t that a confession) and wonder if the phrase “writing down the BONES” was off-putting. Influenced by hubby’s love of NCIS-ish television shows that invariably begin with a dead body? I don’t know. But I took the nudge from Elizabeth and knew I needed to dive in. And…

Wow! It’s my new favorite book about the craft of writing. I can be fickle, so I won’t promise how long my ardor will stick, but for now, my oppressively annotated copy of “Bones” is my fave. So much so that I wrote about it last month – sharing two of my favorite snippets as I began to read.

Now that I’ve finished, I want to share two additional observations from Goldberg’s book – specifically about the motivation to write:

“Writers end up writing about their obsessions. Things that haunt them; things they can’t forget; stories they carry in their bodies waiting to be released.” – p. 42

“…the idea for a book…has to come from a deep place, and it’s not an idea or ‘topic’ like a school composition. It’s a longing that comes from the bottom of the well…you have to make sure that a book comes from a deep passion or even obsession. Because a book takes a long time to write, and you can’t burn out after you’ve written only ten pages.” – p. 191

The “deep place.” I connect with that in a big way.

I’m happily receiving input from my writer’s group – in addition to my trusted beta readers and while I’m impatient, eagerly looking forward to a final, final draft, I know I’m on the right track. And I’ve learned something more that’s helped me dig for story-telling depth while editing.

I can still welcome inspiration.

Embrace opportunities I’ve missed to enrich this work of fiction.

Allow myself to be tickled as enhancement ideas arrive.

Remember to have fun with the process.

I have one devilish example. I love it when a friend asks if I’ll reveal the title of this ‘wip’ (work-in-progress). His interest tells me I’ve been a teensy bit successful in planting seeds of curiosity. And that’s before I’ve revealed the ancestral bits. Yep…it’s a novel…but the undercurrent, the foundation? There are ties to my mom, Sue’s, peculiar family and their strange intuitive skills. And that’s all I dare say. Except for this – an observation. This writer’s needed a dash of faith. The resolve to write to an unknown destination. I did that and a surprise was waiting for me…

If Sue were alive today she’d be gobsmacked by my discoveries. A hint of something she knew about, but the truth, buried in long lost family history would’ve delighted her. And I suspect she’d say it explained a lot. About her over-the-top gregariousness and her knack for getting herself into and out of trouble.

I like Natalie Goldberg’s advice. Follow the longing and take your time. Get to those deep places.

-Vicki 💝


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76 responses to “Deep Places”

  1. Hear, hear! You’ve done great job applying Goldberg’s advice to your writing process. Time and determination to dig deeper pays off.

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    1. You know what, Ally? When I write these self-talk posts, I feel your encouragement running alongside. I just do! Thank so much. Appreciate you! 🥰

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  2. That was the first writing book I ever read

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    1. Oh my goodness – you, too? I’m not surprised…you, Elizabeth, Ally. I’ve been late to the party on this one! 💕

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  3. I love books and writings about the art of writing and this new book sounds fascinating. Thanks for sharing it with us, Vicki! 🥰

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    1. You’re welcome, Ab! 🥰

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  4. This is so delish! Love Natalie as well.

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    1. Oh, Joy! I’m beginning to think every writer I admire — not just Elizabeth — knew all about the “Goldberg goodness”. You, too! Love it! 🥰

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  5. drgeraldstein Avatar
    drgeraldstein

    Yes to the ancestral bits, aka the unspoken, unwritten darkest places — dark because they will break the glass on a fire hose full of tears. Have courage, Vicki! It is another step in healing.

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    1. Ah…Dr. Stein. What a poetic and insightful comment. Grateful to you for your friendship. 🥰

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  6. oh, now I’m so intrigued ! it worked on us!

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    1. LOL! Yay! You’ve made me happy! 🥰❤️🥰

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  7. I’ve long had that book as well. I love your bolded points: inspiration, opportunities, enhancement, and, especially, keep having fun!

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    1. Jane…you, too? Oh my goodness. I love that! Makes so much sense. A book I love that’s appreciated by writers I admire. Xo! 🥰❤️🥰

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  8. This sounds like a good book for writers. Thank you for the heads up, Vicki.

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    1. Xo, Mary! 🥰❤️🥰

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  9. It’s been quite a few years since I read Writing Down the Bones, but I loved it! It’s still on my shelf.

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    1. Thanks, Ashley! I’m amazed it took me so long. My copy sat around collecting dust! I love hearing that you love it, too! 🥰

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      1. It was actually assigned reading in a writing class I took when I went back to college. Such good stuff!

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  10. Sounds like you have a great foundation upon which to build. Can’t wait to hear about these discoveries!

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    1. You, you, you! I think you’ll enjoy them! 🥰

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  11. I so admire you for writing a novel, Vicki. I’m not much of a fiction writer. Maybe I need to spend some time in my deep place and await the inspiration.

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    1. Thank you, Michelle! I’m not sure I am either, but it’s certainly a challenge and I love the connection you made to your “deep place”. You have so many talents and gifts, my friend! 🥰

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  12. Sounds like a great book, Vicki. You know what they say about word-of-mouth recommendations … best way to find a great book. And it’s exciting to hear about your WIP (whatever it’s title). Hehe. Enjoy the unfolding, my friend.

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    1. Love you, Diana! It’s fun…AND a challenge. A good combo, I think. Thank you for all of your support and encouragement…yes, yes. The unfolding. xo! 🥰

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  13. Wow. Things that haunt you, things you can’t forget. Obsessions. YES! I feel THAT in my bones. And I love how you are still adding new ideas, enriching the book. The fact that Sue would be proud is intriguing! Thanks for sharing how mining can bring out some true gold. 😊💕

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    1. I thought you might connect with that! And yes…not being afraid to keep mining…but good grief. It’s time consuming. Sending big hugs to you!
      🥰❤️🥰

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  14. Good point, Vicki. There’s no getting around the time-consuming part, but we’ll give it all when we feel our project! 🥰❤️🥰

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    1. Very true…and I like the point you made in your post this morning about taking breaks, being thoughtful about our use of time. So very true. And important! 🥰

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  15. I think everybody has their rhythm in writing. I’m not sure taking a longer break works for everyone, but it does for me. 😊 Thanks, Vicki.

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    1. Know thyself! Xo! 🥰

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  16. Thank you from a deep place in my heart for the shout out! I really appreciate it. I’m reading “Writing Down the Bones” now — a chapter or two each day. I also started a new manuscript that comes from deep within from some family sagas and memories. It’s more powerful than the one I was editing that wasn’t so connected to me.

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    1. Also, I cannot wait to read your novel!

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      1. Ooooh! That makes me super happy! Thank you, dear Elizabeth! 🥰

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        1. You intrigued me with your secret WIP title and that Sue would be proud and fascinated with your insights!

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          1. Oh good, good! I’m gonna keep you in suspense. (Very hard for me to do!)
            🥰❤️🥰

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            1. Okay, be that way! 💕💕

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              1. LOL! Love you…mean it! 🥰❤️🥰

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    2. Wow! Love hearing allllll of that. I’m so indebted to you for the introduction to this book. Cheers to you! 🥰❤️🥰

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      1. Thanks again! Have you read “Bird by Bird” by Anne Lamott? That’s another good one from around the same era.

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        1. Yes…so good. I’ve read that one a couple of times and keep it close — in my “I need inspiration” stack! 😜❤️😜

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          1. I ordered both books recently to give me inspiration. I used to own them but somehow they disappeared.

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            1. Ohhhh! We should compare notes about “Bird” when you’re ready!!! 🥰

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  17. Oh, oh, oh! You have me intrigued. Another book by Vickie Lou! And it’s a Novel!
    Excitement is in the air!

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    1. You are amazing, Nancy Lou! My very own cheer squad. Thanks so much!
      🥰❤️🥰

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      1. GO VICKIE GO!

        V I C K I E! GO!

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        1. There she is! Love you! 🥰❤️🥰

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  18. Oh, this is so good! But the advice that a topic needs to come from a deep place. So good! And I love your note that you can and are having fun with it. That matters so much. You’re right – Sue would be gobsmacked. So good! ❤ ❤ ❤

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    1. Yes, yes! Xo, Wynne! 🥰❤️🥰

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  19. Goldberg’s The True Secret of Writing is also excellent. I am so tantalized by your hints about your new book, Vicki! So excited for you- and for your readers! Can’t wait! xxxooo

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    1. Whoa my gosh! Adding to my reading list! I love your recommendation, Lori! And thank you for tolerating my hints! Sending big, big hugs! 🥰❤️🥰

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    petespringerauthor

    As readers, we can sense when an author writes from a personal point of view about events they have experienced, either directly or indirectly. This, in turn, prompts us to reflect on aspects of our lives that make them more personal and help form a connection.

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    1. So perfectly expressed, Pete. Thank you! Agree, agree! 🥰

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  21. You have definitely encouraged me to start delving into that book that stares at me, Vicki. I love that you are on your final draft and finding the joy and gifts of surprises that will Godsmack us it would your mother if she was here to talk about it.. Perhaps she will feel it through the ethers. Congratulations! 🎉

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    1. I love your comment, Cindy! Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful heart and encouraging words! 🥰❤️🥰

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      1. You’re so very welcome, Vicki!!!! 💕

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  22. That book sounds wonderful, Vicki, and you are inspiring! I’ve never heard of a wip before, but now I know. 🙂 Can’t wait for your book to come out. And it’s great that Natalie’s advice has helped. I need to get that book! Happy writing, my friend! ❤️

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    1. Love you, Lauren! It’s amazing — all the good stuff we learn from fellow writers. If you dig into “Bones” you’ll need to share any insights! Xo — and thanks for all the support! 🥰❤️🥰

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      1. Love you too, Vicki, and so true! I will when I dig. So many books lined up already, but I’m making progress slowly but surely. You’re so welcome! Hugs and much love! xoxoxoxo 😍

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  23. Thank you for the recommendation, Vicki. 📝👍🏻

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    1. You’re very welcome, Michele! 🥰

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  24. “…the idea for a book…has to come from a deep place, and it’s not an idea or ‘topic’ like a school composition. It’s a longing that comes from the bottom of the well…you have to make sure that a book comes from a deep passion or even obsession. Because a book takes a long time to write, and you can’t burn out after you’ve written only ten pages.” – p. 191”
    So many people ask me when I am writing my next book
    I had such a deep passion to write about Jessica and I really resonate with the quote above, but was never able to put it into words .
    Next topic needs to be a deep passion not just “hey, write book two two
    Thank you, my friend for your post
    💙☮️

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    1. Love you, Vickie — I’m so happy you connect with this, too. With you! 💕🥰💕

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  25. I’m always intrigued by great book reviews – thanks for sharing!

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    1. Xo! 🥰❤️🥰

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  26. I love those quotes from the book that you shared. I do believe that, that writing comes from our obsessions, the things that no one but us can write about in the same way–a deep place. Can’t wait to learn more about your WIP. What stage are you at? Still drafting? Or sending it out to betas? It is a long process–at least mine were. But well worth the while.

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    1. Yes! Obsessions…another way of exploring our truth, right? Channel them in our writing! 🥰
      Thank you for asking about my WIP. I’m embracing great feedback from my beta readers as I work through another round of reviewing/editing. It IS a long haul…the 88,000 words came quickly but now I want to take my time. It’s due to my publisher in December, but I need to speed up and not perseverate about every single sentence. Gah! Appreciate you oodles for asking. Xo! 🥰

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  27. Awesome! I’ll be adding her book to my reading list. Happy 4th, my friend.

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